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	<title>Comments on: The Problem with Thankfulness</title>
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	<description>The societal ramblings of a couple brothers in their pursuit of truth</description>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<description>thankfulness = conscious of benefit received

The definition of thankfulness suggests that this is a state of 

mind. Not just any part of the mind, But the logical mind, the 

newly evolved thing that made Darwin begin to look at species or 

that caused Copernicus to disbelieve his training.
Since we are mammals, we were long time ago unsentient, still 

social creatures, still milk producing, but not aware of abstract 

thought processes. 
Is &quot;thankfulness&quot; and abstract thought process? This state of 

mind is not associated with the three basic human needs, namely 

reproduction, food , nor housing(adaptation to our climate or 

whatever you want to call housing).
The argument of &quot;thankfulness&quot; when invoked by the net search 

engines (google,altavista) appears to be associated with 

religions. 
One thing that I have noticed when in a forced wait 

condition,(for example the doctors office waiting room), My mind 

is restricted to the absolute moment, sometimes a clock, 

sometimes the receptionist inside the slide window, sometimes the 

tiles on the floor, or the bricks in the wall. This thought takes 

me back to eight years old and the big wooden pews that had 

infinite pattern of wood grain. These thoughts are inextricably 

associated with the forced waiting for church to be over. In 

those days school and church were run by the same masters and the 

overall message to me was ystfu. When I was binded into a 

physical place and controlled with fear mentally , no visible 

sign of anything was allowed. At that time the master would begin 

with the message &quot;be thankful&quot;, while I was intrigued by the 

infinite wood grain pattern between my legs. (a boy is made to 

put his head down quite a ways to pray). 
It seems that my masters had determined that first of all , my 

mind could be abstract at eight years old, in fact I was forced 

to be thankful, and secondly they predetermined that thankfulness 

was good for them. Note here that no proof exists about good for 

me, but lots of proof (do the net search again if you forgot 

where this logic came from) exists about good for them. My own 

experience from &quot;thankfulness&quot; is that wood is made from a plant 

growing on a fantastically beautiful planet called earth. That 

place was later closed and the pews were installed into another 

church far away. Myself wants to imagine that this early 

thankfulness training was thought control , plain and simple mind 

control game. As I write this however, I realize that the thought 

control for me failed. Indeed was it a stupid waist of time? Not 

at all. Remember that all of us are forced from time to time into 

a box. It may be while driving heavy traffic. It may be the 

doctors office. It may be because of an illness and being stuck 

flat on your back. When that happens it is a good thing to return 

to the planets forests if only in one&#039;s mind (and this is a mind 

thing as mentioned above)  to imagine the infinite patterns of 

plant life, or if you are outdoors savy, then look at the star 

systems in which this planet exists. Our conscious mind strives 

to know things from earliest conception. The downside is that our 

conscious mind will eventually, hopefully someday figure out that 

it cannot possibly learn all that there is to know. When one&#039;s 

mind concludes there are infinite facts of life, then the retreat 

location is a controlled place you have already encountered. 

Hopefully your retreat location was a tranquil place, perhaps 

staring into a forest stream watching the endless patterns 

changing your face. If your thoughts return to the organized 

religion structure, you are in fact caught in a circle of warp.
So how is it with you? ??
 So how is it with me? I am caught in the eddy of organized 

religion most of the time. Sometimes I can go right thru that 

sahara of two thousand year old dogma, and pop out on the 

otherside in the forest.  No , I do not smoke, and there is no 

alcohol powerful enough to propel me there. I am thankful that I 

can get there on some days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thankfulness = conscious of benefit received</p>
<p>The definition of thankfulness suggests that this is a state of </p>
<p>mind. Not just any part of the mind, But the logical mind, the </p>
<p>newly evolved thing that made Darwin begin to look at species or </p>
<p>that caused Copernicus to disbelieve his training.<br />
Since we are mammals, we were long time ago unsentient, still </p>
<p>social creatures, still milk producing, but not aware of abstract </p>
<p>thought processes.<br />
Is &#8220;thankfulness&#8221; and abstract thought process? This state of </p>
<p>mind is not associated with the three basic human needs, namely </p>
<p>reproduction, food , nor housing(adaptation to our climate or </p>
<p>whatever you want to call housing).<br />
The argument of &#8220;thankfulness&#8221; when invoked by the net search </p>
<p>engines (google,altavista) appears to be associated with </p>
<p>religions.<br />
One thing that I have noticed when in a forced wait </p>
<p>condition,(for example the doctors office waiting room), My mind </p>
<p>is restricted to the absolute moment, sometimes a clock, </p>
<p>sometimes the receptionist inside the slide window, sometimes the </p>
<p>tiles on the floor, or the bricks in the wall. This thought takes </p>
<p>me back to eight years old and the big wooden pews that had </p>
<p>infinite pattern of wood grain. These thoughts are inextricably </p>
<p>associated with the forced waiting for church to be over. In </p>
<p>those days school and church were run by the same masters and the </p>
<p>overall message to me was ystfu. When I was binded into a </p>
<p>physical place and controlled with fear mentally , no visible </p>
<p>sign of anything was allowed. At that time the master would begin </p>
<p>with the message &#8220;be thankful&#8221;, while I was intrigued by the </p>
<p>infinite wood grain pattern between my legs. (a boy is made to </p>
<p>put his head down quite a ways to pray).<br />
It seems that my masters had determined that first of all , my </p>
<p>mind could be abstract at eight years old, in fact I was forced </p>
<p>to be thankful, and secondly they predetermined that thankfulness </p>
<p>was good for them. Note here that no proof exists about good for </p>
<p>me, but lots of proof (do the net search again if you forgot </p>
<p>where this logic came from) exists about good for them. My own </p>
<p>experience from &#8220;thankfulness&#8221; is that wood is made from a plant </p>
<p>growing on a fantastically beautiful planet called earth. That </p>
<p>place was later closed and the pews were installed into another </p>
<p>church far away. Myself wants to imagine that this early </p>
<p>thankfulness training was thought control , plain and simple mind </p>
<p>control game. As I write this however, I realize that the thought </p>
<p>control for me failed. Indeed was it a stupid waist of time? Not </p>
<p>at all. Remember that all of us are forced from time to time into </p>
<p>a box. It may be while driving heavy traffic. It may be the </p>
<p>doctors office. It may be because of an illness and being stuck </p>
<p>flat on your back. When that happens it is a good thing to return </p>
<p>to the planets forests if only in one&#8217;s mind (and this is a mind </p>
<p>thing as mentioned above)  to imagine the infinite patterns of </p>
<p>plant life, or if you are outdoors savy, then look at the star </p>
<p>systems in which this planet exists. Our conscious mind strives </p>
<p>to know things from earliest conception. The downside is that our </p>
<p>conscious mind will eventually, hopefully someday figure out that </p>
<p>it cannot possibly learn all that there is to know. When one&#8217;s </p>
<p>mind concludes there are infinite facts of life, then the retreat </p>
<p>location is a controlled place you have already encountered. </p>
<p>Hopefully your retreat location was a tranquil place, perhaps </p>
<p>staring into a forest stream watching the endless patterns </p>
<p>changing your face. If your thoughts return to the organized </p>
<p>religion structure, you are in fact caught in a circle of warp.<br />
So how is it with you? ??<br />
 So how is it with me? I am caught in the eddy of organized </p>
<p>religion most of the time. Sometimes I can go right thru that </p>
<p>sahara of two thousand year old dogma, and pop out on the </p>
<p>otherside in the forest.  No , I do not smoke, and there is no </p>
<p>alcohol powerful enough to propel me there. I am thankful that I </p>
<p>can get there on some days.</p>
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